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April 04, 2009 |
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Grievances
FOUND by Jill
in Suburban Las Vegas, NV
I found this not too far from a school, and I assume it is part of a larger paper or project. This kid really thinks stuff isn't fair. Welcome to life.
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We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
This kid doesn't understand how a cluster diagram works. I try to teach them to my students and most of them don't get it, either. Maybe I should stop trying?
"Not allowing people under 16 to work." Ever hear of human rights, kiddo? If you were forced to go to work every day at the age of 6, maybe you'd feel differently about school.
"Schools don't allow soda"...I guess NV didn't sign up for Coca-Cola's "joint venture" thing where they gave money for sports equipment if the school would put Coke machines in the halls. Knowing of course they would get more money back from the vendos than they stumped up.
Sorry, fellow Foundhounds, but I get tired of adolescents with all the latest toys howling, "It's so unfair!"
Kermit, I've gotten several of these in place of outlines, and they are rarely properly executed. I always write, "This is not an outline" on the tops of the ones I receive.
@ Kermit ... don't you find that mind mapping can not only show how all the ideas connect, but can also show how empty the mind is (as in this case)?
I would suppose that perhaps your students don't have enough experience to grok how ideas cluster, connect, relate, and multiply. On the other hand, it's a tool that maybe they will be able to pull out and use when they're more mature.
"The Brat Manifesto"
or
"Mein Harrrumph!"
Taxes going up? Government taking our money? This kid has fallen for the myth that got us into this economic mess. What's not fair is too many taxes going down! Taxes on the rich have fallen far too much, and for far too long! Because well-spent taxes make everything more fair. Schools, health care, parks, roads, bridges, communication systems, water and energy.. all these should be regulated by government and paid for by taxes so as to be more evenly dispersed, and hence more fair. Our money going to the government actually should mean: Our money comes back to us in the form of a better life for all.
My Mama always told me "Life's not fair; never has been, never will be. Get used to it."
Thanks Ma! That's been great... I've saved a lot of time not licking wounds inflicted by the government or my job while other kids sit and whine.
I like this. Not only is the organizer well done, it's true.
Life doesn't seem fair when you are a kid.
Then you grow up and get over it.
Hopefully.
What's really not fair is that I wasn't given the option of doing a rough draft of my life.
This is it.
Not fair! Not fair!
My life's not fair..
it's a freakin' CARNIVAL!
(so much the better.)
@Librarian, thank you for using the word "grokk." I no longer feel so alone...it's a word I frequently use and no one in my surroundings grokks.
Thank you, oh Gods of Found,for a simple spam question.
1. This child won't even know what's coming when it's time to look for funds to pay for college.
2. @ Clover. Are you an idiot?
"Schools, health care, parks, roads, bridges, communication systems, water and energy.. all these should be regulated by government and paid for by taxes so as to be more evenly dispersed, and hence more fair."
Since WHEN did making everything government regulated ever work for anyone? Do you want this country to become socialistic? Or better yet, communist? This country wasn't founded to make things "more fair" for everyone, it was based on the rags to riches mentality! Do you have any idea how awful those administrations will become if put under government control? Teachers will complain even more of their low income wages, but what's worse is that they'll lose focus on teaching their students! I, for one, will not have my teacher instruct me only to what the "state standards" are. I come to school for knowledge, not just what a test is going to test me on! As for putting a government grip on hospitials, the health service will be diminished and we won't get the treatment we need. You are ridiculous thinking that government control will solve all our problems!
"Our money going to the government actually should mean: Our money comes back to us in the form of a better life for all. "
Do you even KNOW where that money goes? Hell if it goes back into our pockets as you so frivolously suggest. It mainly goes back into the hands of greedy politicians.
Anyone up for a flat tax?
won't focus on teaching their students*
*raises hand* I'm up for a flat tax, Singer!
Like many other Foundhounds, Clover is not a US citizen. Get over it, Singer. The Internet is worldwide, ya know? That's what "www" means.
Singer--be careful when throwing out comments to our beloved posters like Clover.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. To suggest that someone is an idiot because their opinion may differ from yours only makes you look like one.
I think Clover is going to be surprised when she finds out she's not a US citizen!
ha ha, no kidding!
Wow. Way to take the fun out of today's find, guys.
I think this kid left a circle out of his vin diagram ... Mom and Dad won't cough up the dough for the things I want when I stuff they can't afford.
JustJoan- you killed me! lol
His rought draft will now read "where is your cluster map?"
Now, that's unfair
I love the "little kids getting away with stuff" yeah- make em work and pay taxes so we can have free game systems!
@clover-good girl, please make room for me on your soapbox
@ sick in tired: Clover is too a US citizen. I think you might be confusing her with Baby Basil....
And Singer: public schools ARE government entities. Your argument is ignorant at best. Stay in school, kiddo.
I can see how easily one would confuse basil and clover--one grows in my yard with little flowers and the other grows in my garden and tastes delicious with my pasta.
WOW! I think 2 out of 6 things that this youngster didn't think was fair had to do with the government and yet this seems to get the majority of the comments. Probably a reflection of his/her parents points of view. Other things certainly are normal preadolescenct concerns. I learned that grok was a word. Thanks 'Librarian'.
@Orinoco and Smiller ... Makes me wonder 'what are they teaching in the schools these days?' There was a time when everyone knew that word. (Didn't they?)
im in high school, and i know many peers like this.......
judging by the shoeprint on the paper, this kid probably worked on this web during the period before, and couldnt do the rough draft. also, 60% of my school's student population really just doesn't care, or thinks that nothing is ever fair in their lives.
just sayin'!
Hate to break it to you guys, but this is how they're doing web diagrams now! The teacher will draw a circle in the center and write something like "causes of the revolutionary war," "not fair," or "effects of tea taxes." Then they'll draw lines going to a certain number of bubbles, in this case six, and have the students list things and write them in the bubbles.
I still don't know what it means to grok. How sad that this kid wants to work so badly, yet is already complaining about government and taxes. He's bitter at far too young an age. Hope he gets a chance to enjoy life a little before he's complaining about social security and medicare.
@Churtle, and anyone else who doesn't grokk: I refer you to Robert Heinlein (sp? ie always gets me in trouble)'s novel "Stranger in a Strange Land" which is still in print but you can find it in the scifi section of any public library. It's a cult classic from 1961 (I think). Lots of the ideas expressed are part of the mental fabric of today, but back in the day they were pretty scandalous and cutting-edge. Or so I'm told. I was a young womble and everything made sense to me. It does when you grow up with it. Like demonstrations, complete with teargas? It's what your older siblings do on the weekend, isn't it? I mean, ovcoarse you always call the people you left when you get where you're going...they need to know you got there.
I grokk.
@Singer C. ... whoa, nelly!! Geeze!! I missed your response to my soapbox rant.. I was too busy teaching all week to come back that day, and it wasn't until one of my found friends clued me in that people were talking about me that I was aware that this conversation had taken place. Since our state is going to have to cut 30% from the education budget next year, due to the current "rags to riches" mentality that you claim has brought us such success, and many teachers will be laid off, so maybe soon I'll be at home with more time for Found, instead of in the classroom educating students.
You are so terribly misinformed, and the logic of your argument is so odd that I find it difficult to know where to start in trying to reply to you.
First I want to say that I would prefer my money be handled by people I elect (government), instead of by ultra-rich aristocrats who cannot be removed from power (business owners).
Sure, government has been known to be wasteful. But no more wasteful than the greedy corporations and financial institutions that have been robbing this country blind and stealing from our children and grandchildren's futures for the past couple of decades, and especially in the past 8 years.
As a matter of fact, yes, I do want to see more of a socialistic system in the U.S. Wasn't that obvious from what I wrote in my comment? Why should we allow unbridled power in the hands of people we don't even elect?
There are certain things that are necessary for the health of a society -- shared resources such as transportation, education, communication and health care -- and those things should NOT be operated for profit! They should be run purely for the benefit to society.
We're seeing what unregulated capitalism does. It concentrates wealth. I'm not advocating everyone being equal, or even a society where things are “fair.” That would be impossible. But I’d like to live in a society where people have enough compassion for one another that the stronger ones are proud of helping those who can't help themselves, and everyone has a decent standard of living.
I believe in capitalism and competition for products that aren't central to the existence of a healthy society, but it all needs oversight to prevent corruption. Government agencies need oversight for the same reason.
Honestly, what you say about education makes no sense whatsoever. This is what you wrote: "Do you have any idea how awful those administrations will become if put under government control? Teachers will complain even more of their low income wages, but what's worse is that they'll lose focus on teaching their students! I, for one, will not have my teacher instruct me only to what the "state standards" are. I come to school for knowledge, not just what a test is going to test me on!"
What the heck does that mean?
First of all, what “administrations” are you talking about? Also, schools are already under government control. I am a teacher, and I don’t complain about low wages. I work hard, and I am paid adequately for my efforts. I love my job, and I can’t imagine working any other profession. What do you mean when you say that teachers will “lose focus on teaching their students”? I can’t imagine anything shaking my focus on educating kids, unless it is the threat to the very education system itself, as we see happening today. I must admit, it’s difficult to stay focused and optimistic when everything you’ve worked hard to build is crumbling, when colleagues are facing layoffs, when you look into the lively bright faces of young learners and you realize that the options for them will shortly shrivel to the point where their elective choices disappear and their plans for college will never become reality.
Do you even know what “standards” are? Do you have any understanding about what goes into writing the standards, and what the purpose behind them is? I could explain, but I won’t do that here. I suggest that you find out, before you rail against something you don’t understand.
On one thing I can agree, if I understand you correctly (which is difficult, because you aren’t very clear in expressing your ideas in writing). That is that testing has become far too important in recent years. But that’s not because of government regulation. It’s because private enterprise has put such pressure on schools to become factories churning out workers for business that they have narrowed the emphasis to math, science and language arts (in that order) to the exclusion of everything else. People making the decisions about coursework don’t understand educational psychology, developmental readiness, or how learning takes place.
Education cannot be measured with a test. Knowledge can, maybe, but not education.
You wrote, “I come to school for knowledge, not just what a test is going to test me on!” I think that means that when you go to school you hope to really learn. I am really glad to hear that! Too many students are in school just to get a grade. But really, it’s the learning that counts. I hope you never stop your quest for learning. You just need to realize that the things you are complaining about have been put in place by the influence of powerful corporations – not government.
Obviously, there are many points of view on these complex issues. I am open to looking at everything in new ways, and to changing perspective should new information become available. But that’s what happens with education. Suddenly everything becomes LESS clear and, just as questions are answered, ever more questions emerge.
It would be a good idea for you to learn more about these issues before taking a stand. And then it would be helpful to hone your writing skills so that your ideas can be clearly understood. Keep working at it.. you’ll get there!
(Ooooooh! The spam question!! It's too perfect! "What is the opposite of bad?")
@Nightingale.. you said what I said in so few words. Très bien!
@all my found friends:
Ahh... you guys are the greatest! Found friends forever!! Ahh... :)
your fff,
Clove
Clover. You totally rock. i wish i had read this earlier.
Nightingale may have said it short and sweet, but MAN, CLOVER, that was brilliant and poetic.