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Messages in the Night
FOUND by Eric S.
in Tampa, Florida
If you live near Tampa, you have received these. There's a religious nut who goes around town very late at night, randomly depositing these tightly folded messages on people's front lawns. If it's raining that night, they all arrive wrapped in tin foil. This guy also distributes CDs wrapped in saran wrap, which consist of religious/pop culture/delusional ramblings with bits of music by Evie (a Scandinavian christian pop singer from the 1970s) spliced in. I have copies of two CDs that were found about 30 miles and 5 years apart from each other if you would like to hear them. They are quite good.
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We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
I would LOVE to hear the cds.
Some of my favorite people have schizophrenia. If it wasn't so horrible, it'd be kinda fun.
I hear you. I don't know what's wrong with Bob Dylan either. Lately, I've been persecuted by Mozart. When someone asks me about him, I completely wipe them off the board and run away screaming (293).
i think this is my favorite thing that i've seen posted here.
I wrote all of the works attributed to "Stephen King" while I was institutionalized. They stole them from me. But I wrote them all. I also write the songs that make the whole world sing. I write the songs of love, and special things. I write the songs that make the young girls cry. I write the songs. I write the songs.
This is one of my favorites. Mostly because of the foil in the rain. He/She isn't completely crazy, afterall.
Do all the notes say the same thing?
I like that he admits right off the bat that he's schizophrenic. It gives him credibility that leads me to wonder if I should throw out my Bob Dylan CDs/vinyls ... for like half a second, anyway.
52 69 76 ---- what was the next number supposed to be? I had to re-open the site to get a new spam protector question!!! Now I forgot my comment.
Oh yeah- I like how THIS time it's Bob's fault, not the imagination.schizophrenia/ celebrities thing.
I want to know if Eric knows this note-writing person. Perhaps intimately. You know, like Sybil.
</b>Yes. I'm OCD. Why do you ask?
once upon a time i started to receive odd little packages thru the cat door to my kitchen in my second story duplex apt. This went on for some time, things like silk flowers or bottles of soda half drunk, i was mystified but not too upset.
one day the person delivered his ID minus the eyes which had been scratched off.
after that the jig was up, and i knew who he was.
sensing, i believe, that the magic was gone, no more packages arrived from then on though i never confronted him.
i kindda miss them.
What did I miss? Oddness, that is a beautiful story. With so many people these days thinking anything even slightly different is "creepy" or dangerous, it's refreshing to read that you were open to the experience. Bless you.
What's really weird is that the same thing was happening with bold and italic type on the previous Find page.. but the same fix didn't fix it. Very odd.
So you see, Jimmy, the main things to remember is "quotation marks around the URL" on a hyperlink and </closing tags> on all the commands. Thank you, and have a pleasant good night. (I really think that once we all get the hang of it, it'll totally be worth the effort.)
Oh.. right. About the find.. isn't it usually the case that schizophrenics don't "know" that they're schizophrenic? (and therefore wouldn't open a note with the phrase "I'm schizophrenic..") Or is that some overgeneralized, erroneous myth?
It's a myth. I've corresponded with a few schizophrenics, and one wrote to me that he usually knew when others might think that what he was experiencing wasn't real, and that most of the time he could adapt his behavior accordingly; for instance, by not screaming at the voices to shut up while he was riding on the subway. One asked me if she thought they would let her carry a gun if she became a wilderness ranger. I said probably not. It's very, very tough being schizophrenic. Their suicide rate is very high. Sad.
</a></I> OK, so who hyperlinked example?
Dear Jason, this is where that preview feature would be worth my weight in platinum.
(here goes nothing)
I am almost jealous of this schizophrenic character. He's got what it takes to make good music and is not afraid to put himself out there. It's too bad he thinks that Bob Dylan is pursuing him.
PS: I would absolutely love a copy of those CD's!
I think one of my friends is schizophrenic. I have no idea how it's treated, and decided not to do anything about it, as I don't even know what I could do, plus he has a very great mistrust of institutions or treatment for mental illness and I think it would make him unhappy. But comments saying 'high suicide rate' scare me just a little. He's one of my favorite people.
I told him straight out I thought he was schizophrenic. His response was: 'I'm not schizophrenic!' in a deeply incredulous tone. I was all 'Oh, no, you just think there's a little man sitting on the carpet.'
What is it with schizophrenic people and tin foil?
Evie is/was Scandinavian?? !! The mind boggles!
(It does, however, explain a great deal within its sociocultural/religious context).
"What is 45 divided by 3?" Bloody impossible, that's what! Come on, Jason, ease up!
its sad, the number of people with schizophrenia who are afraid of getting treatment. I can understand that, the side effects of the meds are horrible. THe older ones cause stiffness and restlessness, the newer ones cause weight gain and increase risk of diabetes.
If someone's not a danger to anyone, then maybe treatment isn't necessary, but it needs to be explored. I've seen lots of people function in society, with the right medication, and caring support systems.
i dont think we're ready for html...</i>
My nephew is schizophrenic, and he rambles like this too. I know I shouldn't be, but sometimes I get mad when he starts in on the universe and building a giant fan in the backyard to stop global warming. He recently told me our cell phone radar type waves were banging people in the head in Nevada and making them sick. We are on the east Coast.
my husband has schizophrenia
trust me, you dont want it. i love him more than anything on earth, but i cry for him every day that he has to live with this horrible condition. all i can do for him is love him fully and completely- but i would NEVER wish schizophrenia on anyone, not even my worst enemy.
Meinmeworld, i don't think that anyone has wished schizophrenia on anyone. You need a support system of your own, dont cry by yourself. find people who can help you.
i'd like to hear the cd's too, but i imagine that you are getting a lot of requests... perhaps you could post them on a site somewhere that people could just go and listen?
i really feel for this person, and for his "audience". am driven by a similar force, i have a project that i call "lost art" that helps me quell my particular dragons. i try to keep my little pieces of art/photo/messages, hopeful, positive and neutral, and i try to leave them in a wide range of places so that no single community catches the brunt of my obsession. i also sometimes put the found magazine URL somewhere on the 'lost' piece so that the circle of art can continue.
thank you for caring about this person's messages. it gives me hope.
So, it looks like most of the fun stuff (and the not so fun stuff, seriously who blocks the underline tag!?) is blocked. But!
<ul type="square"><li>We can use bullets.
<li>And Now I will look for an excuse to use them often.
<li>We can link to pictures of Cute Bunnies
<li><a href="http://www.eglobe1.com/word/wp-content/i Bunny</a>
<li>And we can do the ever so boring...
<li><b>bold</b>
<li>and <i>italics</i>
</ul>
Well I am done playing with HTML today kids, momma's got work to do. :P
the html scripts are killing me. It just doesn't feel like found comments with all that messy-ness.
though I do have to say that marquee would have been fairly cool. jason- bullet lists but not marquee?
in regards to the find- my friends' old neighbor was schizophrenic and used to put cone like things on top of all her flowering plants, but not her regular leafy plants. We found it odd and amusing, but very sad at the same time.
Oh boy. What a mess! Apologies to anyone if I've deleted a commenter's work of art... if you're going to use the html tags, you've gotta CLOSE THE TAGS. Promise?
and is it just me, or does it seem to be typed on an actual typewriter? The uneven ink and the old font... wonder if he typed each one individually or typed a whole sheet and photocopied it? Typewriters take so much dedication, there is no ctrl +A followed by ctrl +Z... you have to white those mistakes out!
OK, so I just deleted the most comments we've ever had to delete <i>ever</i>. Be gentle with the html tags, this page was starting to look like McDonaldland. Obviously we need to have some sort of HTML checker on the server to keep these little "accidents" from affecting other posts. Until then, we may be a little heavy-handed with the deleting. Deal?
I find this very very sad. The poor guy! I would hate to think that someone is persecuting me, even if it was Boy Dylan. I hope this guy's ok....
Although, wrapping stuff in tinfoil when it rains shows that he is at least thinking ahead. There's still hope!
PS 45 divided by 3? Come on, how bout some stuff we can do in our heads?!
somebody should make a movie about that fellow. he sounds like the next jesco white or daniel johnston.
i would love to hear this music.
worstdaay@aol.com
or
worm.buffet@yahoo.com
i promise, Jason, to use the html for good and not evil.
45 divided by 3 is 15... easy.
I these spam protection questions are a secret IQ test being administered by Bob Dylan.
52,69,76,_
_=Bob Dylan hates me.
Ah, as you can see, we were a little quick to unleash the html in here. We'll be working away to get things tighter, and to make sure this doesn't turn into something resembling MySpace... it's amazing what can happen with a few lines of code! Stay tuned...
Weird...
However, I do like the fact that this mental handicapped BUT intelligent person uses tin foil to wrap his notes when it rains.
Also, saran wraps his CD's, too??
WOW!!
I mean, if I was to throw away a note hoping to be FOUND, I surely wouldn't wrap it in anything (for that matter!) if it was raining!
And just losing a note, who would think?
A very good point, Jenn.
I'm afraid I would consider him cursed with Bob Dylan's voice as opposed to blessed. <<<dodging hurled food>>>
Re:difficult spam questions
Before you type your comment, check the spam question, and if it's too hard, then hit "refresh" and there will be a new question.
or, if you dont check the spam question until after you write your comment, just copy, refresh the page, and then paste it into the new box,
Seriously... what IS up with Bob Dylan?
;-)
Jason- please don't let Found turn into Myspace!
I used to think there was something wrong with me because I never had that "spiritual" feeling people supposedly get when they listen to Dylan. Thank you, Found commenters, for helping realize I'm not alone in being mystified by the amount of people who LOVELOVELOVE him.
P.S. I always get the easiest spam protection questions... Maybe Jason is persecuting me by not allowing me access to the questions that make people think...
What's wrong with Bob Dylan?
He can't sing.
I'm not sure having the same voice as him is something to brag about...
I never cared for Bob Dylan either and I am a 60s fanatic.
This is an interesting find, but to know there are many of these types of notes laying all around Tampa, this puts it in a different category than other finds.
People with schizophrenia have the episodes and are aware of them but cannot control them. Most people I deal with (I work with disabled people) know that they have schizophrenia.It's a question of admitting it - because some people deny it. Not good.
I like this find and I hope Bob Dylan stops bothering people.
I have a very easy spam protector question here - if it's a word one, I'm fine. I would have been stuck at anything beyond second grade math. ~LOL~
No fair! I live in Tampa and Ive never seen one of these! I would love to walk outside and find one of those CDs one day.
ahh i love bob dylan!
Lucky me, I don't know what HTML even is.
This is my favorite post yet.
I like Bob Dylan :(
Bob Dylan is not music to my ears. But each to his own.
I am hurt and deprived... or is that depraved? Anyway, I was at work today and didn't get to see the comments before Jason altered them. Next time, please wait until after I get to see the mess.
On the find... I love this! I want to hear the CDs. There is something sad and beautiful and poetic about how this person copes.
Bob can sure play a mean harmonica, though, regardless of what you think of his singing. :)
loveeeeeeee this find. My Hebrew studies professor used to play Bob Dylan everyday when class started. Good times.
My uncle is schizophrenic. In the late 90s, he thought the KGB was targeting him through the powerlines and wouldn't leave his front door unless he had his old motorcycle cop helmet.
Schizophrenia is <i> really </i> sad. :(
Spam protection: 28 times 15 is what? ... calculator? anyone? ...420? Seriously?
I'd love to hear the recordings, too. I think someone already posted a good idea for this, which is to upload it to mediafire and then post the link so anyone can listen. thanks!
I just love how it is all rant, rant, rant. And then.....What's wrong with Bob Dylan?
I mean it's not like "I wish Bob Dylan was dead" or anything. I like, it, good ending!
Found needs to stop persecuting those of us with less than a fourth grade education! If I want to be stupid and/or illiterate, than I should be allowed to without sacrificing my right to comment!
I think the questions should be easy to answer, like "What is covered in frosting?" and then the answer is "Cake." Everyone can spell Cake. Everyone who knows how to type, anyways.
And Bob Dylan is awesome, fools.
"What is covered in frosting?"
"Cake" isn't always the answer to that, doll. Not at my place, anyways....
Stay in school, Ashleigh.
maybe it should be multiple choice.
what is covered in frosting:
1) cake
2) meatloaf
3) barney
If you answer meatloaf or Barney, you're definitely a hacker. we don't want you. go away.
"I don't know what's wrong with Bob Dylan"
That's gonna be my favorite new quote!
wait..you guys don't put frosting on your meatloaf?
..i mean..like..i don't either...i was just asking..that's gross..who does that? seriously...psh..
Bob Dylan is a misunderstood troubadour syncophant. You either love him or you hate him. So....here goes. I love Bob Dylan in his many incarnations! If you don't like his voice, read the lyrics. Or, listen to "Isis " off the album "Desire". Other than that sage advice, I got nothin'. Rock on, schizophrenics!
cupcakes?
Whew! No problem, Jason. I'm the one who got us stuck in HTML land last night, and so (thankfully) about 15 of my posts were deleted. I made two huge mistakes: 1.) in the example, it looked like there were spaces before and after the text between the bracketed commands; and, 2.) I didn't notice the slash in the second set of brackets that closes the command. Once having unleashed it, it made everything I wrote (and everyone else in subsequent posts) appear in red, bold italic and hot-linked all text to a certain American Apparel product. Many thanks to the html wizard who got us back on track in the wee hours this morning, and to Jason for sweeping up a few hours later. I'm sorry for the mess.
Schizophrenia is not a "mental handicap."
I live with a slight but developing form of Schizophrenia. It is called Schizoaffective Disorder. Hah. The computer thinks it isn't a word. Computer has a "mental handicap."
I am glad to see that the populous is beginning to feel for people like us. I'm glad there is beginning to be less of an association with Multiple Personality disorder and Schizophrenia now.
I am glad.
By the way, This Find makes me happy. I wish I could share my thoughts as freely with such free thinking people as this person.
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm schizophrenic
And so is Bob Dylan
I'm in the Loves Bob Dylan camp. I was brainwashed at a very young, impressionable age. There's a certain magical vibration there.
Thanks for mopping up Jason.
this reminds me of the guy I always see at goodwill, he always buys cookie sheets "because he cuts them up to make cellphone holders...so the government can't track him, and as soon as he gets a patent...he's going to sell them, and I can have one for $5.00 because I'm nice and I'm the only person he's talked to that thinks it's a good idea...and everyone else will have to pay big bucks for them." I guess he never figured out that I just love feeding into crazy people...
|: this guy sounds really cool.
ahem. I myself am quite frequently covered with frosting...
yeah, he DOES sound cool. i love the end too. and the tin foil!!! best found EVER.
I wonder if Bob Dylan ever checks in here at Foundmagazine.com?
I am definitely a fan of Bob Dylan's songs and music. Incredible the way he is with words. I think my favorite song of his is Isis.
"..I married Isis on the 5th day of May
cuz I could not hold onto her anymore
so I got on my horse and I rode straightaway
to an unknown valley
where I could not go wrong
oh Isis oh Isis you mystical child
what drives me to you is what drives me insane
I still can remember the way that you smiled
on the 5th day of May in a dress out in the rain.."
..come to think of it, there's a certain similarity in Dylan's rambling ballads to the ramblings on some of our found items..
'nite all!
this message is for Emily in the Midwest (and other brave folk like her): kudos to you for being open and honest - and obviously a pretty together person despite - or perhaps partly because of - your struggles with your mental
health; for having the guts to stand up and speak out for yourself and others like us. Most of the lovely posters here (those who aren't just hung up on html issues or dylan ;) can see the sad, sweet beauty of this Tampa man's compulsion, but few people know how this drives us to create and share in an attempt to soothe or heal ourselves, or even just share our experience and try to connect with the world around us in a beautiful, hopefully healthy way. I think Davy and his crew are all a little OCD or somethin', personally. :) Folks probably have little idea of how many of history's great creators were struggling with some of these conditions. look at dear, tragic Vincent VanGogh... Anyway (what were y'all sating about schizoid ramblings? ;) thank you is the point, for recognizing that society is beginning to have feelings for people like us, and most especially for "shar[ing] [your] thoughts as freely with such free thinking people as this person." Amen, sister!
I can't STAND Bob Dylan. Whining dull voiced hippy.
A lot of people here mentioned that they want to hear the CD. To be honest, the CDs are sad, hilarious, and a bit disturbing, depending on how you feel like interpreting them. Here's a transcript of the first few seconds of one CD: "An eye doctor put drops in my eyes that blinded me. So I went on a 22-day fast and now I can read the bible again. This is a song by Evie (play song)." Yeah, that's just the first 10 seconds...
The only thing that keeps me from posting the CDs, is that he levels a lot of threats toward various people (to the point where you're kinda worried for them). That, and I don't know where to post an hour-long MP3 file so that people can listen to it.
For now, I submitted two other clippings to the web site. So they might bubble up in the future. Anyway, glad you guys liked it.
Q. What's covered in frosting?
A. The grass on a February morning
(At least it should be, but what with climate change you probably are better sticking with the answer "cake" or "Kellogs Frosties")
My apologies...to Emily.
I don't understand Schizophrenia but I was wondering...could a tramatizing experience in your life cause you to be schizophrenic? I had a Vietnam veteran that used to walk up and down our streets cursing, spitting, and screaming at all hours of the night in our neighborhood. I thought I remembered mom telling me that he had a mental handicap because of the war and he only got that way if he didn't take his medicine. All this time I wondered why he never took his medicine but thanks to Mona Lisa in the Louvre, I think I understand now.
We have quite a bit of experience here in the law office with schizophrenic and bi-polar patients, both representing and on the opposite sides. Very sad, but interesting the way the mind works for these folks.
I think the best was the client who "played" chess with the radio, thinking it was giving him instructions on how to move. That person also used tin foil quite a bit. That is a strange consistency among the sufferers. Maybe someone who is a Dr. or psychologist can give us some insight.
I have to admit though, that no matter what Mom said in his defense, I was not very fond of him as a child. I think it was because fear got the best of me and it was hard to reason at that age why anyone would act that way and not take medicine to get better. As an adult, I understand it better and I definitely don't hold the same opinions as I did when I was younger.
I just have to admit that now though because I feel bad that I didn't give the guy a chance as a child.
oh, and my husband loves bob dylan! lol
Winston, the only thing that causes schizophrenia is a chemical imbalance in your brain. Sometimes a stressful experience could cause the symptoms to get worse.
Hey Clover in a dream...
I was thinking about turquoise
I was thinking about gold
I was thinking about diamonds
and the worlds' biggest necklace
as I rode through the canyons in the devilish cold
I was thinking about Isis
and how she thought I was so reckless.
(harmonica solo)
PS I love frosting.
F u Harna. You don't like Bob Dylan. He doesn't like you either. Get over it , hater.
Actually, quite often schizophrenia is accompanied by Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which could be a suggestion that it is caused by traumatic events.
I live with both.
Holly in Toronto-
It is alright. I understand. I find you to be intriguing yourself considering your interest in this topic anyhow. Seeing especially that you came back to this same post even 2days later. There is no offense taken. Only love and understanding for it being reciprocated.
I love my cat Snickers. She won't stop singing.
And I love posting. mainly because of the questions for spam protection. So fun. So so fun.
@ Emily- Thank-You.
I'd love to meet your kitty-cat, Snickers! What a 'sweet' name!
I own a dog, a Rottweiler, and her name is Layla. She's 4 years old, and she sings, too!!
Mind you, only when there is food involved!
Eric,
I was just debating going out to see the new Dylan schitzo-biopic "I'm Not There" when I ran across your post. Funny!
Anyway . . . There are several sites that will host files for free. The one that I like is www.mediafire.com. If the file is too big to post, then you may need to compress it (with a zip, rar, or stuffit program).
It would be great to hear those CDs.
Thanks for posting.
Is there any way possible to get copies of those cd's? Nothing says "AWESOME!" like recordings of peoples random thoughts.
When you say Tampa, do you mean Clearwater? I live in Clearwater and get these on the lawn from time to time. The guy must randomly picks people's houses because our next door neighboor gets them all the time, she brought over one to me one day to ask if we get them. they freak her out...
this is my favorite find! and yes I would like to her those cds!!!
I would love to hear his Cd's. I think this person would be very interesting to have a conversation with.
I think that's ace that that guy comes round with those bits of paper and that he even goes to the extent of wrapping them in tinfoil. We tried leaving notes through the letterbox down the road once but nothing happened. Pretty boring. I would like to hear the CD's too, I bet they're wicked!
My Mom in Law lives in Tarpon. I wonder if she ever gets these. It would probably freak her out.
Yesss, I want to see/hear more from this person. Seriously. Schizophrenics are the most entertaining of artists.
Midlife crisis in California...Thank you.
Does anyone know what's wrong with Bob Dylan? He is a woman in his new movie I hear.
I wonder what Bob did to persecute this person.
I mean All I Really Wanna Do Is Baby Be Friends With You.
And I like how he uses tinfoil when he knows A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall.
P.S. - I'm wearing a Dylan shirt right now and enjoying the irony.
Oooohh, Eric S. from Tampa!! I hope you're still following Found Magazine, and will submit those CDs to Found Sound!! I'd love to hear them, and I know lots of other people would, too!! Don't delay! Send 'em in!
i would lOVE to hear what this cracker made
I would really really love to hear the music they made. I don't see what's wrong with Bob Dylan though, I think he's amazing.