 |
April 06, 2008 |
|
 |
|
|
No Dinner, No Deal
FOUND by Jesse W.U.
in San Francisco, California
I found this blowing in the wind outside my apartment. Though it's unclear what the "deal" in question may be, the photographer has done a fine job illustrating what he means by "No Dinner." I interpret it to mean: "If you don't cook me dinner, the deal is off," but I suppose it could mean the somewhat more unkind: "You get neither dinner, nor deal."
Sign in or register to start a profile and keep track of your comments. You may also post without creating a profile, but you'll have to answer some tough spam protection questions.
A Day in the Life ... July 27, 2007 |
Cowboy Eyes May 27, 2007 |
Tender and Sweet April 19, 2006 |
I Put a Curse January 21, 2006 |
 |
|
 |
         |
We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
does the bottom say "messnoise"?
Lookit the sugar and creamer dispensers on the table: How retro!
And why's there an extra (extra long) spoon on the plate at the left?
Ok. I'm done now.
Well, that doesn't even look appetizing.
I thought they were plates full of cockroaches or something, at first.
I wonder if this was written with the same pen as Mr Calligraphy's note in the previous Find.
this picture has to be kind of recent-ish, because there's sugar and sweet&low (could've been the '70's).. but aren't the yellow packets splenda? (making it 21st century)
I like that it's a polaroid.
"mess" makes me think it is military - seargent's mess, officer's mess. I think it looks threatening, but maybe that is my own hangover from the previous find.
I thought they were plates of nice shiny purple sausages, rather than a picture of 'no dinner'.
I really, really can't figure out what is on those plates!
I get so sad and nostalgic when ever I read anything about San Francisco. I love that place and want to go back. :(
"messnoise" is someone's tag, and s/he is venturing into a more traditional art world than graffiti. this is the first attempt. i like it.
To Captain, I think the extra long spoon was prolly from the tea the person at the left side of the table had -- hense the sugar packets. It DOES look retro, but its prolly intentional, like from a Dennys or a House of Pies or just some diner.
To Mir, are you trying to figure out what is on the plates underneath the marker scribbles?
That is indeed a toughy.
Maybe it is saying: No Dinner! Mess noise (which is like conversation) No Deal!
Maybe the artist was invited to dinner (perhaps a date) and the last time the inviter just sat there -- or maybe they had a fight and he/she gave the writer the silent treatment all night. So they're like if you don't talk to me at dinner tonight, NO way in hell!
Wrye, I think you've found the one who burgled your Sharpies.
Lauren, I love San Francisco too! I moved there all by myself at the age of 22 in the 1970s,rented a studio apartment, and worked at Tower Records and Cost Plus on Fisherman's Wharf.. that was when the cable cars were actually used as methods of transportation! I'd hop on as swung by my street, and hop off at the wharf. Such freedom. And that was before AIDS.
My fave cities: San Francisco, Paris, Amsterdam, Portland OR. Not necessarily in that order. I can never decide which one to put first.
I think it says MESSNDISE. Not that it makes much more sense than MESSNOISE. But if you notice in the two "no"s they wrote their o's are very round, but the one at the bottom has a point at the top. This makes me think it's a D that got cut off at the bottom.
I do agree with guesses that it's an iced tea spoon, that makes sense.
It seems to me it might be some sort of scavenger hunt or sorority/fraternity type game. Going around taking pictures of items and putting phrases or puzzles on them?
i thought the long spoon looked more like the kind you get when diners give you milkshakes.
Unless that photo is flipped, the silverware is on the wrong side of the plate. Should be on the right. Or at least some of it. Okay ... not a fine dining establishment perhaps. I'll give them points that the silver is in the same order, knives arranged with the edges in, on both plates. Could be a step up from Denny's.
Looks like ketchup on the plate on the right. I'm thinking eggs underneath the sharpie massacre.
Blackbird - I hung out in SF, too in the 80s !Love San Francisco and the whole Bay area .
Well, as for this find...yuck, this vegetarian was not impressed at the plates of weinies.But what peculiar weinies they be-LOL ! The plates and their contents are a bit annoying to me.
The find is something of an ultimatum -but for what reason, we may never know.
The "long spoon" is an iced tea spoon, which is sometimes called a soda spoon. It gets its name from iced tea because it was often served in tall/big glasses. Later the spoons were used in soda shops, where milkshakes became popular.
I agree that MESSNOISE is a tagger.
http://flickr.com/photos/artcodes/37806937/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/caffeina/82841219
I think he was extorting the owners of an eating establishment for dinners. If they complied he would not tag all over their place.
Mercy, mercy! This is a devil, and no monster: I will leave him; I have no long spoon.
Mmmmm. May I have some more chocolate pudding, please?
This thing annoyed the hell out of me at first glance, and it's still pissing me off. If anyone ever left me a message like this, it would be a sure sign that they weren't someone I would want to have dinner with anyway, let alone some kind of deal.
Do you ever wonder if those 'found' guys are just trying to mess with your mind, man? Sending you off to a random find when you click on something..moving comments around..
lovely find, but I have to take this time to voice my outrage that polaroid has recently discontinued making the film!!! sure, digital is fast and cheap to print, but polaroids are a classic. - the anticipation for the image to show is a feeling every human should experience. LONG LIVE POLAROIDS!
What? You can't get Polaroid film anymore?? There's a certain art technique that requires an old Polaroid camera and old film.. it was really cool. I learned how to do it in French class.. i have saved that old camera all these years thinking someday I would make art with it.
well, you'd better visit all the old drug stores and start buying up all their old, dusty boxes of polaroid film (you know, the old Rexall on the corner..) because that's the story:
http://news.bostonherald.com/business/general/
polaroid's discontinuing it. There IS a movement underway
http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/save-polar
to SAVE the Polaroid Film.. but considering the flow of .. whatever it is that would cause Polaroid to discontinue Polaroid film, the grassroots movement will not likely have a monumental impact.
(if the links get all discombobulated in this posting, see my blog- I'll put easy to follow, clickable, HTML LINKS! ahem.. jason? brad? james? arthur? I'll keep whining until you trust us with html again, you know I will....)
ok, it clipped all the links. but at least they didn't mess up the page formatting. There is that small consolation. See blog.
i THINK i've figured out what's on the plates............it's jus random sharpie/marker scribbles on the plates...it's the artist's interpretation of "dinner"...the color of the stuff on the plates pretty much matches the color of the text...and also, it looks like marker markings, to me...
I agree with Lars & Terrie:
There definitely seems to be a tagger named "Mess Noise." He/she seems to be pretty bottom-of-the-barrel, as far as graffiti goes. Graffiti on stickers ain't art, buddy.
http://flickr.com/photos/phunk/316133072/sizes
http://flickr.com/photos/caffeina/2078880053/
http://flickr.com/photos/caffeina/828412193/
http://flickr.com/photos/cjw333/38661143/
http://flickr.com/photos/petalum/36441205/
http://flickr.com/photos/caffeina/2076137081/
http://flickr.com/photos/graff_is_crime/447539
http://flickr.com/photos/7602696@N04/858935393
Mess noise Dracula (appears to be in different hand):
http://flickr.com/photos/phunk/417136337/
Is "Mess Noise" also tagging his/her own graffiti on Flickr to make it easy to search?
If you're going to dine with the devil, use a long-handled spoon!
What IS that stuff on the plates? At first I thought "frenchfries" or "sausages" but the "things" are too long and the wrong shape for either. Then I read the comment about marker scribbles and the light came on. That bad, was it? If that's "dinner", I can understand the rejection.
As for "MESS NOISE"--I wouldn't want to eat in a diner like the one represented by this table setting. I can just imagine both the mess and the noise. No, thank you. No dinner, no deal, indeed.
You don't buy me no dinner, you don't get to lick my dessert!
"Joey doesn't share food"...that's what Di-Di's comment reminded me of.
I'm hungry so this makes me think of black noodles. Like burnt roast beef seasoned noodles. I'm so hungry. It might be good with cauliflower and cheddar sauce.
Reminds me of the "Greasy Spoon" just around the corner from where I live.
The condiments and paper placemats!!
Like being hungover on a Saturday morning and craving Bacon & Eggs over medium, with hash browns, toast and coffee!!
Terrie and HeyThereItsEric -- thanks for your sleuthing! Definitely a tagger in SF.
Strange that graffiti artists use the same 'font' on both sides of the Atlantic -- pointy 'o's, squiggly 's's with a sort of horizontal bar across the middle, mixture of caps and lower case... must be to do with the wrist action while spraying/using big marker pen? Tags just like this all over London.
Terrie's 'extortion' theory sounds right to me -- 'free dinners or I mess up your nice clean eating establishment'...
He who sups with the devil should have a long spoon.
Jonathan, you may be right. Under the marker it looks like tomato sauce...an Italian establishment, being encouraged to join the protection-paying fold?
I'm pretty sure I see some dinner hiding on the sharpies scribbles...What I don't see is drinks.
NO DRINKS! NO DEAL! ....or no tip
Hey! I didn't get asked a spam question!!!
Messnoise is a Graffiti Tag name :)