July 01, 2008

Papa's Got a Brand New Job
FOUND by Patti A. in Seattle, Washington
I found this on the ground outside the Ballard Library. I think Papa has a hard time keeping a job and a good attitude. I wonder why someone calling herself mama has handwriting like a junior high kid?
Heather Ela in e
OOOOH! can anyone at all tell us what it means when someone dots their I with a full circle?!
I appreciate how she gently reminds him that it's up to him how this is going to go. He gets to decide, it's all about his outlook.
Personal experience would say that men (allright at least one man in particular) oft fail to recognize that.
But no matter what, she'll stand beside him...bad outlook or not. Rare breed that one!
+ July 01, 2008 01:18 AM +
th in k
awwwww(:
+ July 01, 2008 01:32 AM +
Holly the Homemaker in Toronto

Sweet!
+ July 01, 2008 02:16 AM +
Farmer in In The Dell
I have no doubt about this person's sincerety; seems pretty devoted and all, but...

It's a crock about everthing being attitude- dependent when it comes to employment. Some jobs just suck, no matter what you or anyone else thinks about them.

I had a friend who was a professional dog licker. He claimed he loved it, found it very fulfilling, rewarding, and a valuable contribution to the planet, blah, blah blah...but seriously, dude....a dog licker. C'mon.
+ July 01, 2008 03:02 AM +
Librarian in the woodwork
No way is Mama going to "be there with you"! She's going to be sitting home writing little love notes, making supper, doing the gardening, reading books, walking the pet giraffe, cleaning under the couch, polishing the silver, checking out the soap operas. But actually being WITH Papa at this new life-changing job?? Ain't gonna happen.

(And I just put in the giraffe thing to see if you were awake this early in the morning.)
+ July 01, 2008 05:41 AM +
Dimples in my cheeks
This note was written to Papa and Mama both... not by Mama. I think the teenage girl wrote to papa and left it on the kitchen table for him to find when he came down for his breakfast on the first day of his new job. Being the super sweet girl that she is (the handwriting and heart give that away) she didn't want mama to feel left out, so she included a little note to her as well.

This brims with all the optimism that only a young teen can have... sweet but sadly naive!
+ July 01, 2008 06:15 AM +
alan goes "pting" in Joe Strummer's head
I can't get James Brown out of my head.
+ July 01, 2008 08:14 AM +
Turbo in the Thunderdome
I bet Molly Ringwald wrote this to Harry Dean Stanton right before she met up Blane and made Duckie mad.
+ July 01, 2008 08:20 AM +
Turbo in the Thunderdome
*met up WITH* Shouldn't of had that beer with breakfast....
+ July 01, 2008 08:21 AM +
Moonshine in the dungeon
hahaaha about Turbo drinking that Beer w/ Breakfast *digs in trash to find rest of beer* hey, it was a rough nite!!

Also, I think Papa is a drunk, who never keeps a job, poor kid is wishing he'll work atleast a day this time and actually bring food home instead of a 5th of Vodka. Wishful thinking, but it ain'ta gonna happen.. pfft!!

Also, i go to my Obgyn for a toothache.. He likes to feel me aaallll over..Muah
+ July 01, 2008 08:34 AM +
mlm in texas
@Alan--But what's in his bag? Is it still brand-new?
+ July 01, 2008 09:16 AM +
fooch in a time warp
I wonder what job Papa has that his daughter would want to 'be there with him?' Ah...the lightbulb went on! Papa got a job at same place that his daughter is working..no wonder it is possible for her to be there with him (fast food? shoe store?) How sweet is that!!
+ July 01, 2008 09:21 AM +
Curious in Charlotte, NC
I can't imagine any teen girl, no matter how good the relationship, telling her dad she'll be there with him. That's just... creepy.

PLUS, if it was her, this story wouldn't go here:

After I was married and our son was born, my husband started to call me "Mama". Not just to my son, as in, "Tell Mama: Beer me!" But when he wanted me, he'd yell, "Mama!" Totally turned my stomach. It does even now, just writing it. He couldn't understand my swift and nearly violent condemnation of that particular term of endearment. But... ewwwww. It bothers me when a man and wife call each other "mama" and "papa". They're not your parent!
+ July 01, 2008 09:48 AM +
Librarian in the woodwork
@curious ... well not in SOME cultures, maybe.
+ July 01, 2008 09:57 AM +
Sammy Davis Junior Jr in a wormhole
Love the way she makes her 'a' in this letter. Takes a lot of practice to get them it just right.
+ July 01, 2008 10:08 AM +
Christina in Illinois
I think it's written to papa from mama, she just ran out of room to sign it at the bottom.

They might be young parents, referring to themselves as their new parental titles, a habit I can't stand.
+ July 01, 2008 10:17 AM +
Smallbear in the Cave
@farmer What the hell is a dog licker???
+ July 01, 2008 10:23 AM +
Drifting in The Sky
AHHH HAAAAA! Librarian is soooo a guy!! Did you hear that shpeel on women! I knew it!!
+ July 01, 2008 10:42 AM +
fooch
@ Smallbear: I was wondering the same, but almost afraid to ask (the mental images are ugly)
+ July 01, 2008 10:42 AM +
THIEF LURKING in My Closet
A dog licker is similar to a window licker, but they have a thing for fur =)
+ July 01, 2008 10:45 AM +
UtahChick in Utah
Six months Later........

Papa changes his life for the better because of this "amazing job" and dumps Mama for a younger skinnier prettier version.

Isn't that what make America great?

Always go for the BBD! ;)
+ July 01, 2008 10:49 AM +
Freonz freak in g hallucinations
Time for your graphology lesson, Heather Elaine (and anyone else interested, which should be everyone of you since we're always eyeballin' notes from random stangers):

An i with no dot i indicates a person who starts but seldom finishes anything. Heavy dotted i’s i indicate an aggressive person and where the dot is a circle i a vain person is indicated. The high dot i leads us to determine a high level of imagination with the low dot i indicating a person who can perform tasks to the end. Finally, the dash dot i indicates a zest for life and also one who can easily be distracted.

[Copied from here http://tinyurl.com/5dgxhf ]
+ July 01, 2008 11:13 AM +
Beldar, consum in g mass quantities
I don't know what an actual handwriting analyst would say, but to me the bubble dots over the I's indicates a certain immaturity. (highschoolie girl stuff. But many a grown-ass woman has girlie girl handwriting and naive, girlie optimism.)

Another thing that makes me ponder, speaking of I's.. I notice that she capitalizes the I in the phrases "I think" and "I love you," but "i'll be there with you" isn't capitalized. This makes me think that she's been smiling and waving, cheerleading Papa for many moons, and while she wishes and hopes for the best, she feels forever jerked around by his fits and starts. She'll be there with him, because she can't see beyond her reality far enough to notice that there might be other options. She'll be there, all right. But behind, not beside. And she knows it.
+ July 01, 2008 11:13 AM +
Beldar
Hmm Okay. Now I guess I know what an actual handwriting analyst might say.
+ July 01, 2008 11:15 AM +
alan goes "pting" in Joe Strummer's brain
mlm

The bag is full o' dem crab feets.
+ July 01, 2008 11:36 AM +
Terrie-Is-So-Very in totally-unique-ville
Dang, Beldar, I wonder what a FOUND comment analyst might have to say about your post. Grown-ass woman, heheh.
+ July 01, 2008 12:12 PM +
Pixi in skewl
To the finder, why couldn't a junior high kid be a mama? Maybe it's a note to the upper classman that knocked her up, encouragement to get him motivated to change his damn attitude and take that cashier job at home depot or whatever to support their baby. Like curious said, sometimes mama and papa become odd forms of endearment...
+ July 01, 2008 12:40 PM +
Krista in the midst of celebrating Canada Day!
Ha ha....wtf is a dog licker? That sounds like the worst job ever, even if you are a "professional" dog licker (as opposed to those who are maintaining their amateur status for the dog licking Olympics).
+ July 01, 2008 01:06 PM +
fooch in Down The Rabbit Hole
@ Terri: maybe it should be big ass-woman
+ July 01, 2008 01:11 PM +
fooch
Hold the show! Dog Licker is a heavy metal band:

http://www.purevolume.com/doglickersunited

+ July 01, 2008 01:47 PM +
Librarian going deeper in the woodwork
Dog licker is okay and all, but I prefer corn licker myself.
+ July 01, 2008 01:55 PM +
baby basil in the herb garden
A lot of people who marry young and have a butt-load of kids start calling each other "Mom" and "Dad" because it's easier than saying "your Mom" or "your Dad" and it becomes a habit. My own mother married very young, she never finished highschool...and no, she wasn't pregnant, but in those days married girls weren't allowed. I am the last born of a very large family, and my parents only used each other's proper names if they were *very* angry. Just like we only got our proper names (as opposed to nicknames) if we were seriously busted. And if you ever got the full name with surname and all--you were toast.

So maybe "Mama" married "Papa" somewhere in the middle of highschool and never grew out of it. Or maybe "Junior" is only a few months old and "Mama" leaves him at the school's daycare so she can get her diploma while "Papa" flips burgers or sacks groceries. If you're a very young parent, the name may make you feel more adult.
+ July 01, 2008 02:29 PM +
Freonz freak in g hallucinations
I like the logic in baby basil's reasoning behind Mama and Papa, but I don't feel that there are actual children involved. IMO, these are late-teen, early-twenty-somethings that are shacking up (or whatever they call it these days) with cat(s) and/or kittens. Or perhaps, hamsters (or humpsters as a friend's elderly mother called 'em.) Something with four legs and fur that they are "raising" together only because they can't afford real children and (gawd bless 'em) have taken the steps necessary to not have them.

Someone early on made reference to Papa being a drunk that can't hold a job (or something along those lines.) I support that theory.
+ July 01, 2008 02:56 PM +
mlm in texas
@Alan-Yuuuuummmmm!
+ July 01, 2008 04:24 PM +
tiffany in the office
just this afternoon my boss referred to his wife as mama, "when mama aint happy, nobody's happy"... i found it a little strange, but FOUND relevant, hooray!
+ July 01, 2008 05:27 PM +
Thinking in Tampa
Regardless of the relationship, I think this is an amazingly positive note. Whether the writer be 12 or 60, wife/mother/daughter/girlfriend, whatever ... anyone has a better chance at success when they have a supporter. And there is nothing (to me) that says "I love you" like a note left to be read. Bravo. And good luck on the new job.

Oh, and Farmer ... you're an idiot. But we knew that.
+ July 01, 2008 05:47 PM +
shut up butthead in Ell - ing - ton !
heh heh .. he said dog licker.
+ July 01, 2008 09:10 PM +
Terrie-Is-So-Very in totally-unique-ville
Happy Canada Day, eh.
+ July 01, 2008 10:00 PM +
thinking about that time in mexico
at the handwriting analysis......

don't always buy it -- I remember in 6th grade I changed my handwriting to be more loopy like my best friend...

then in highschool i spent a summer in mexico and stopped dotting my "i"s just because I was told that was how people wrote in spanish -- to make sure the dot didn't get confused with accent marks....

... So I think our handwriting can be influenced by those around us just as much as by our personalities.
+ July 01, 2008 11:25 PM +
Teresa in terested by handwriting
@thinking about that time, I agree about handwriting influenced by surroundings -- I remember when every last girl in my middle school had the exact same writing to be cool and cute, though I know they didn't all have exactly the same personality.

anyway, I think handwriting 'analysis' is a load of made-up bull-crockery, but what do I know?

As far as the find goes, I think the lady (assuming it's not a gender confused gentleman) is referring to herself as the mama. Maybe they're 21 or 22, got married just as they were finishing up their bachelor's degrees. They had a kid quite early on (perhaps getting married in part because of the impending child), so their son/daughter is quite young (as in, only now learning how to master the phrase, 'mama'). Since they've only recently graduated, they're in a tight spot money-wise and this will be Papa's first 'real life' job out of school.

looks like a healthy, happy relationship to me; I wish them all the best.
+ July 02, 2008 04:15 AM +
orinoco womble in wimbledon burrow
Careful, there, Mama.

"Papa was a rolling stone.
Wherever he laid his hat was his home.
And when he died, all he left us was alone."

Don't be tooooo supportive. Protect your back. And your kids.
+ July 02, 2008 02:07 PM +
you're read in g too much into writing
I have a friend who's 30-something and her hand-writing is the exact same as it was in grade school. I also know other adult females whose handwriting is similar to this note. None of them call themselves Mama, though... that's just weird.
+ July 04, 2008 02:24 PM +
Night in gale
We call each other "Mama" and "Papa" at our house. We don't give a shit what anybody else thinks.
+ July 27, 2008 10:57 PM +
Manda Shitley in League City, TX
My ex and I used to call each other Mama and Papa.

We were 19/20ish at the time so maybe that explains why they look like they are in junior high.

It's creepy because the "Papa" "<3 Mama" and "I love you" look like my writing.
+ August 30, 2008 02:36 PM +
Chiara in deep thought of this note
My mother wrote a note just like that to my papa its funny because whe would call him "papa" and he would call her "mama" her handwriting too :)
+ March 19, 2009 03:35 PM +
chiara in virginia
my mamma says that this looks like a note she wrote to my first dad 'papa' a long time ago.
its so cute
+ June 16, 2009 03:57 PM +

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