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Easter Egg Icon
FOUND by Tracy
in Seattle, Washington
I found this behind a shelf in the Ballard Fred Meyer store. I guess it's a note from an Easter past.
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Ooh! What did the priest do that made his job description broad?
And Happy Easter everyone!
I love bunnies and candy.
At a glance, I thought it said, "Thank you for fucking me," with some weird insignia next to "me."
@Flargy- I thought that, too!!
I like the handwriting- it makes me feel pretty when I read it.
What's with the little plus sign next to the signature? Or is it a cross?
@Flargy & Jen, I thought so, too, but quickly re-read that line since the rest of the note seemed so sweet.
@Syke, perhaps the priest created the icon with the image of the egg?
Happy Easter, y'all.
Haha. I thought it too!
happy easter everyone!! this post confuses me, @ skye is it broad or good? i read it as good the first time. but i also see broad, hmm....
btw, i freaking love Fred Meyer!!! all those states without fred meyers are really missing out.
what the crap is a fred meyer?
and good job descriptions for priests? catholic as i am, still sounds...
i dunno weird
also anybody else catch the white-out next to the shell?
very mysterious
Happy Easter, all! Or in my private lexicon, Happy New Year!
Oddness, they may have needed to block out a company logo, or the Found team may have found it advisable (no advertising, y'know?) In Spain this shell shape is the symbol of Santiago, St. James of Compostela to you and me, a huge pilgrimage site. The cross by the name could mean Dorian is a religious, or has done the pilgrimage (like Moslems who add "Hajj" to their name after they've been to Mecca). Or it could just mean that Dorian is very devout. Many girls who went to Catholic school retain the habit of putting a cross next to the signature, or at the top of the first page of a new notebook.
I think it's foturnate that the author had ink to match the logo's color. I believe this find would have a totally different impact, written in red or black.
I was thinking Flargy had a one-track mind.
But then I thought the signature said 'Oh Christ', which would fit his version.
I guess the white-out was the recipient's name?
Otherwise the in-joke-ness of this makes it pretty inscrutable. Though I confess the religiosity makes me somewhat queasy. I like it if someone signs a X for a kiss, but a Xtian "+" would be a bit of a turn-off.
Nevertheless, HAPPY EASTER everyone!
It's not a turn-off if you happen to be one. And both sender and recipient obviously are. Of course they had no idea this private thank-you note was going to end up on the Net for all to see and kibitz. We must remember, Found is for voyeurs who like to mind other people's business.
Who else would find a note written by an unknown, to an unknown, and think, "Oh I MUST post this on the Internet!!", but a voyeur?
ROFLOL
Seems odd to me that a priest would include an EGG in a religious Easter icon. Are they going to put Rudolph in the Christmas one?
Happy Easter everybody!
fred meyer is a store kind of like a super walmart i guess. it's got groceries, as well as department store type stuff, plus toys and sporting goods, and all that sort of stuff. basically they sell everything, but they only have stores in a few states, i believe only in the northwest, plus utah, for some reason. at home, i live right across the street from one! i miss it while i'm at school. whoah man, no i'm not a creeper.
Christina, the Easter Bunny would be a better comparison to Rudolph. Eggs actually have a lot of symbolism attached to them, in many religions.
@Cristina, the egg has long been a symbol of the Resurrection within the Eastern Orthodox tradition. It symbolises the Trinity (yolk, white and shell are all integral parts of the egg but all different in form and function, rather like the Persons in the Trinity) as well symbolising new life, new birth and hope. You may have heard of the famous Fabrege eggs made for the Czar of Russia...you can see some of them online. The custom of giving and recieving real eggs, coloured or not, at Easter is ancient.
The custom of dyed Easter eggs came to the west along with Orthodox immigrants. The whole bunny/basket/chocolate thing, though, is commercialization at its worst IMHO. You will not find Easter bunnies or chocolate eggs on the Mediterranean (outside tourist areas, of course).
Ah, this is an Orthodox Christian writer! Easter eggs are fabulously decorated for easter (like Ukranian eggs. Google it.) and they are sometimes given as gifts. And it would not be unusual for a saint who painted eggs/was famous for giving a certain egg to be depicted on an icon holding a red egg or a decorated one. That is probably what the "job description" was about. Maybe this particular saint loved painting eggs.
actually i did a little digging and i found that there is an icon of Mary Magdelene holding a red egg that might be the one this Found item is referring to. It's a rather well known icon, so it wouldn't be surprising if it was. Maybe the priest who painted the icon of Mary wasn't origionally an iconographer and THAT is the "good/broad" job description.
Hey cool- I Found something cool not long ago in the Ballard Fred Meyer parking lot!
(which I selfishly posted in MY FINDS.)
Used to live in Ohio, once upon a time, where there were no Frey Meyers, but there were Meijer stores, which are very similar.
I would not compare Freddies' to Wal*Mart or Super Wal*Mart, because Freddie's is considerably more expensive.
Happy Peeps and Bunnies day.
I saw what Flargy saw too,
& then I maximized it.
I like the little plus sign,
but, as Jen said, it's probably
a cross or something.
Oh, and Happy Easter!
An egg is also used in the Passover feast...the date of which determines the date of Easter, since Christ was crucified at Passover (on Friday) and was resurrected on Sunday, which is why we celebrate Easter. Well Christians anyway, the rest of the world celebrates for reasons unknown to me...maybe Hershey day, I don't know.
But anyway, Happy Easter! In Christ, Robyn
I googled Ukranian eggs and spent a good bit of time wondering over the beauty of them. I could see doing that same sort of thing on something more permanent, such as ceramics, but perhaps their very impermanence adds to the beauty..
I will probably get a lot of flak for this but I find blatant references to whatever religion you belong to ( such as "yours in Christ" or the little cross next to one's name) obnoxious, unneeded and ridiculous. If you need to announce that you're a Christian than whether you intend to or nor what you are really saying is i am better than you. In other words it is really a Holier than thou way of going through life.
People who do this need to realize that jesus would have never done the same and so by expressing their Christainity so blatantly they are being unintentionally unchristian.
Ok...let the crucifixion of Smallbear begin.
My Easter sucked!
Oh Man, Lady B, I'm sorry to hear that!! Maybe there's still time for it to improve? Mine is being spent unpacking.. somewhat meditative, but mundane "work" Now that it's 5, I think it's time to crack a beer.
Yours in Fat Tire, (it's a blatant statement of my lack of religion, SmallBear.)
Chrome
I can’t see the white-out area. Maybe the priest had a really cushy position in a wealthy church. Or he got to travel to exotic places.
Smallbear, I’m going to tug at your ill intentioned bait. You might not have your facts exactly correct. When you say that Jesus would never have proclaimed His faith so blatantly, you forget how He told people that He was the Son of God. And all his disciples of course went out and blatantly proclaimed their belief in Him. It is actually not an unchristian act to let people know that they believe in Christ. However, you are correct that saying “I’m a Christian,” as a way to establish your superiority over others is not part of Christ’s teachings. It’s okay to stand up for your faith, whatever that faith may be. I do, however, find Christian bashing as obnoxious as racism and homophobia.
I’m really saying this because I took Father’s Easter Vigil homily to heart when he said that we should not be so passive about those who make fun of Christians. Why is that a popular trend?
Happy Easter to all, whether you believe in Christ’s resurrection or not.
Smallbear, Jesus loves you more than you will know. wo wo wo
If the find wasn't so blatantly Christian, I would think that Dorian intended for someone else to sign the thank you note, but they forgot.
My easter was awesome and filled with coloring eggs!
Smallbear, this was originally (obviously) a private message, unintended for Internet consumption, so the person who wrote it had no idea his or her personal life was going to be reviewed by strangers. I'm sure s/he isn't living life according to your standards, or mine, come to that. Nor are we worried about this person's reaction to our own lives. Why? Because we're total strangers, noseying into other people's business. I'm sure the note was left behind in the shop unintentionally, and was probably meant to be kept, or tossed, by the same private person it was intended for originally.
Small Bear,
I signed my post "In Christ" because I find it irritating and obnoxious when people who are not Christians feel the need to slam people who are...please see Johnathan's post where he says, "Though I confess the religiosity makes me somewhat queasy."
Small Bear, props for saying what you feel but I must say it's a little un-nerving that you feel so strongly about the way someone would sign a name according to religion. I work with very religious people on a daily basis and although I am agnostic, It does make me un-easy to be around the constant praying and references to Jesus. However, I could care less how someone sign a name, the only time I care is when I'm preached to. Thats a line crossed.
I agree with "sick and tired"
The note is sweet.
I didn't know that about the history of Easter eggs. I'll have to actually make some next year. :)
--I think it would be obnoxious to sign "in Christ" to someone who isn't also a Christian, but to someone who is, especially in what was supposed to be private coraspondance, it's very appropriate. It would be like signing "your sister, ____." If you're sisters, it works.
Chrome, we're semi-neighbors. I go to the Fred Meyer in Ballard, too.
I think this was the first Easter in my life I didn't color eggs.
For all of the Christian symbolism attached to eggs, it is probably useful to consider that their attachment to Easter probably originated with Pagan festivities of fertility. Like many ancient Christian celebration, concessions were made to reconcile cultural rifts between minority Christians and majority non-Christians, including Pagans found throughout the Roman Empire.
It is, of course, no coincident that the two major Christian holidays correspond to major astronomical/astrological events -- the Winter Solstice and the Vernal Equinox. Christmas almost certainly happened in the spring rather than the winter, but it was advantagous to time it with the dominant celebrations of yule, solar gods, or druidic spirits. "Seasons Greetings" would have made an apt greeting card sentiment anciently as well as it does now.
The reckoning of Easter Sunday has always amused me: the first Sunday after the first full moon after the Vernal Equinox. Doesn't sound a bit Pagan, does it?
So, naturalistic celebrations of fertility at the onset of the Earth's rebirth in the seasonal change from winter to spring seemed to correspond well with Christ's resurrection (as well as any celebration from a contradictory and competing spiritual tradition could be). So the dominant symbols of fertility -- eggs and rabbits -- have been with Christians ever since. "Breeding like rabbits," apparently is yet another popular notion that has been around far longer than we might think.
It is an interesting twist on what I witness on a regular basis: my atheist father-in-law putting up a Christmas tree and cooking an Easter ham as a cultural concession. Within our immediate family, we represent those for whom Christmas and Easter are profound religious remembrances, comforting nostalgic memorials, annoying moments of religious excess, and reprehensible expressions of consumer culture run amok. But still we get along just fine -- so long as no one expresses their TRUE feelings. Ah! Sweet repression!
So, I bring this up not because I'm out to bash Christians (I'm part of the religious faction of our family), but because it is endlessly interesting how divergent human perceptions of the divine are interwoven. It gives me a speck of comfort and a glimmer of hope for our contemporary contention when I consider that these struggles are millennia old. Maybe we won't tear ourselves apart over spiritual beliefs just yet...
@Not so clever, I think you brought this up because the only thing you could find to make a sandwich is a few hardboiled eggs, but your stomach was still queasy and you thought better of it.
(Are you a professor at Lake Woebegone?)
Ell-ing-ton!.. And how does that make you feel?
@Night in gale
I live in the land of Lake Wobegon and Frostbite Falls. Was that a guess? Or are you snooping my IP address? What kind of hacker/stalker are you?
@Not so clever,
Gosh, chill out Dude. I'm none of the above. I just happen to be a Garrison Keillor fan and your "sweet repression" comments sounded just like something he'd say. Excuse me for actually reading your monologue.
Unless of course you actually ARE Garrison Keillor, then I humbly beg your pardon and consider it a huge honor that you've "spoken" directly to me. Please feel free to use my sandwich joke any time!
(And if you're just some professor from up north, and you want to remain anonymous, don't put yourself "out there." Everything I guessed was right there in the midnite post above. I apologize for my snippy reply and for freaking you out.)
@Night in gale: What snippy reply? And you certainly didn't freak me out. I was just trying to be, well, clever. I am not one who is good at using my lol's and my :D 's like I should be. A good friend once told me that I sounded pissed off in all my email messages. I've tried to be aware of that ever since. Ha! lol.
I'm no professor, but I live in Minnesota to be sure (oofdah). I'm not too concerned about being known, I didn't think that I had revealed that much! You are a good reader! 8D
And I'm no Garrison Keillor, though I do appreciate his show. Though, it gets a little stale from time to time. He needs to update his image of Minnesota a bit -- as a place with major refugee populations from East Africa and Southeast Asia, we're not quite as Lutheran and lutefisk as he likes to pretend. But maybe being cosmopolitan isn't as funny -- and we certainly can't keep up with New York or Chicago...
Anyway, we've turned this find into our own little get-to-know-you session. It is nice to get to know all my new found friends (pun intended).
@So clever: you've earned a nickname! 8-) And you're right, a few well placed smileys and hahas go a long way to setting a tone. They may be dorky, but unless one wants to sound humorless or pedantic, they're fairly necessary in this medium. To your friend who thinks your emails sound pissed off, I hope you replied, "I'd rather sound pissed off than pissed on!"
I live in Texas, but grew up in Chicago. Found friends are the best! Several of us have met up at MySpace. Are you on there?
@Night in gale: TECHNICALLY, I'm on myspace, but I have done nothing more than register. Frankly, that whole project seems just too big and hairy to get sucked into right now. So, I have a login so I'm not TOO far out of the online loop, but it doesn't do me any good. So, for now, let's pretend that I don't even know what myspace is. :)
I grew up in Texas -- Dallas Metroplex. Odd and oddly pleasant place.
@ so Clever: ok, I'll pretend. 8-)
Thats funny, that's where I live now. We've swapped regions. If I'm a "damn Yankee", what does that make you?
@night: a traitor to the Proud Republic of Texas, for one. Plano was where I grew up. What a world. My beef with Plano then and now is its exceptional and excessive materialism. Even by American consumerist standards, those Dallas suburbs really go above and beyond. It was good to move north to get a different perspective.
Chicago's a favorite town. I don't get down there as often as I would like. I like the way it gives the full big city feel in a way very different than NYC.
All of these exchanges make me think that we need a private messaging feature here on Found. Jason? Are you lurking? :)
@So clever: Traitor. Haha! Yeah, Plano is engrained in everyone's mind as rich teens on heroin. I'm a headache's drive northwest of there, in a lil suburban town btwn Lewisville and Denton. I'm not sure if the materialism is much different in Chicago suburbs, but I've always been on the slightly more "have-not" side of the whole equation. Being one of 6 kids doesn't offer up a lot of extra bling or whatever we called it in those days.
When did you leave Texas? I moved here in 1983. I've never been to NY, but always assumed it would feel like Chicago. I don't think I've been to Minnesota, but have spent many summers my whole life visiting the U.P. That's my favorite place, on Lake Superior.
I think Jason's too busy installing <-prev/next-> arrows to notice us stuck here on Easter Sunday. Haha! 8-)
Not so Clever, I can't pretend.. our silly little circle of "Found Friends" would love to see you there.
If you joined us, Not-so-Clever, you would have private messaging at your fingertips.
@ So clever: meet my nosy kitty and my favorite small kitchen appliance! These are 2 of my bestest friends, and there's more besides! All you have to do is log in....
(But I totally understand if you'd rather not. Don't want to cause any priority problems for anyone. Sincerely.) 8-)
@the MyFOUNDSpace crowd: okay. Maybe I'll check it out -- next week.
Left TX in 1988.
Manhattan has an urban feel all its own. The island keeps all the action in. There is no room to sprawl (though commuters descend from many miles away in every direction). And the Hudson and East Rivers have NOTHING on Chicago's lakeshore.
The UP is incredible -- kept great by its inconvenience (few people are willing to go as far out of their way to get there). I get onto Lake Superior once in a while. Stunning. A little Gordon Lightfoot and I'm lost for hours...
Not-So-Clever: we'll wait for you. And when you come you'll see our famous art work, a nice green plant, and a naughty boy among others.
@So clever: I love Gordon Lightfoot. I have a few of his songs on my space. My sister saw him in concert in Wausau last year. His health is failing, I understand, and she said he had a hard time playing as nimbly as he used to. That's sad. He had several of his biggest hits when I was in high school. It seems like the music from one's teen years is the most memorable. It is for me anyway.
We lived in Texas for 5 years together and we didn't even know it! In those years I lived in The Colony, Irving, and then in Lewisville. Have since moved 10 miles north of there to Corinth. Anyway, if you feel like stopping by next week I'll put my id on my profile here temporarily. You'll have to send me a request cuz I'm on private. I've enjoyed gabbing with you, but it might be wise to move this conversation before the haters come in and break it up. 8-)
Get a blog folks!