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October 16, 2008 |
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Feelings and Thoughts
FOUND by Julie
in Eastern Canada
While walking with a friend who was having a particularly bad day, we found this in a parking lot between a high school and a strip club. It made her feel a bit better to see that some people had it worse than she did.
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We collect FOUND stuff: love letters, birthday cards, kids' homework,
to-do lists, ticket stubs, poetry on napkins, telephone bills, doodles -
anything that gives a glimpse into someone
else's life. Anything goes...
This is the saddest find ever. She obviously has some skills...neat handwriting, the ability to spell and use correct grammer. She's already one up on many kids today. Is she in something she can't seem to get out of? I wish there was more and a happy ending to this story. I'm afraid there isn't.
Spelling, grammar, and intelligence only get you so far.
On a good note, if she's dead, she can't be so depressed anymore.
YAY!
I've written almost that exact same note...but I'm still here!!!!
Wait a minute. There's a parking lot separating a strip club from a high school?
@ Night: that's what I was going to say! A bit awkward when the students sneak in during lunch hour and run into the principle who did the same thing. And on stage is a teacher who just started today.
I hope the writer got help to feel better.
I think this looks more like a list of depression signs like, what are the feelings a depressed person has? list. What are the thoughts a depressed person has? list.
Like a reminder for a psychologist student or something like that...
I dont know about anyone else, but to me this looks like a textbook description, maybe like someone's homework/research on suicidal feelings, what to look for if you are worried about a friend/relative.
great minds huh alice?
You got it, Alice. A textbook checklist of signs to look out for. It reminds me of the list that was circulated to "concerned parents" a few years ago telling parents how they could figure out if their kid might be a goth:
http://forum.ebaumsworld.com/archive/index.php
man, i hate people who need proof of others suffering to find perspective in their own lives. so self-absorbed.
haha star, exactly same time
Yeah, Alice and star might be up to something.
If you were as down and low as you were when you'd write a list like that, you wouldn't actually bother to write a list like that. If you know what I mean.
others have beaten me to everything I was going to say...
Yes, the list strikes me too as likely a "watch list" sort of thing. like for someone working on a suicide prevention hotline, or for a report, etc.
and like Night in gale pointed out, I' surprised by a strip club and high school being direct neighbors.
the possible ironic/shocking possible connections are almost endless;
Students cutting classes and going next door.
Teachers cars being seen in the strip club parking lot at night "oh... I was at the school grading papers late... yeah that's it..."
Teachers getting sick of the bad pay at the school and getting jobs next door.
how many of the strippers work there due to failing to graduate from the school next door.
*I'm surprised...
*one to many "possible"s, please ignore the one of your choice.
I agree with the folks that say it looks more like a learner's list, not (thank goodness) the writer's own condition.
The only strip club I know that's across from a high school is in Moncton, New Brunswick. Some poor city planning, if you ask me!
Wow. Imagine how sad they're going to be when they realize they lost their paper.
@ rob: seriously! some things are simply hard to remember, it would be a real drag to lose this list, one might start feeling some love accidently!
on the optimism of this conversation: thats all this is--optimism. I dont take my notes in first person. Thats not to say no one does, but this seems more like a manifestation of maladaptive cognitive behavioral therapy to me.
just some thoughts...
isn't it a little ominous that the writer didn't finish the last word of the page...?
Is anyone else humming "Hot for Teacher" right now?
"Why are you home late from school, son?"
"I had, uh, detention. Yeah, that's it. Detention."
@ night in gale, monkey, et al. ... my first thoughts focused on the juxtaposition of business establishment with educational institution, too; except I wondered whether the note was written by a high schooler, by a stripper, OR by a high schooler who works as a stripper.
I'm with everyone else who thinks this has to be notes from a psychology/health class.
And at least the dropouts won't have to walk too far to find a job...
ditto alice, flargy, et al.
damn i hate thinking my response is original and then reading multiple comments that already say what i was thinking. =P
I wrote the same note when I had a bad case of "panty crickets".It will get better.
High school next to a strip club??!
Just the thought of the existence of naked women gives high school boys a boner. With a building full of naked women right next door, how can any of those boys learn with all that blood rushing away from their brain all day?
Oh and I agree that this is just a checklist. No one would write this as a suicide note.
You mean, you wish you WERE dead.
I wish I WERE such a good note-taker!
@nightingale - you're right. Why not have them in the same building.
at first readthrough, i thought for sure it's a personal list, but now that i see that the person's written it as part of some assignment. "what might you feel, think, if you were suicidal"
spam protection ? last month of the year. This one, if i'm feeling as badly as that note indicates.
The last line is my favorite.
"I just can't seem to keep my thoughts str.......ooooo! pizza!"
Canada would have a strip club next to a highschool....Blame Canada...Blame Canada...
Tough competition for the cheerleaders at the local football games...no wonder this girl was depressed...
though I concur- it looks like class notes to me.
Night in Gale that was my first thought. Wow a high school stripper.
not exactly class notes, either ... this is a crib sheet written up before the loser [NOT that the person who wrote it is "a loser", necessarily, just that this person lost the Find and is therefore "a loser" ... although on second thought - oh, never mind] anyway, this is a crib sheet written up before the 'loser' went to an appointment with the school counselor.
She wanted to get the symptoms down pat so that the counselor would want to keep her in the office under observation and, oh by the way, she would miss her big biology exam that afternoon (which she hadn't been able to study for because she had been 'working' [wink, wink, nudge, nudge] the night before)
Life is so complicated in grade 11.
I've felt exactly like this before. There is no way I would have been able to write a coherent list like this to express how I was feeling. I took a Psychology class in high school and a lot of my notes looked like this.
@ Miss Scarlett
Although not the best idea, having a strip club close to a high school is part of what makes Canada so awesome! I wish we, here in the States, weren't so scared and offended by everything.
Where's our resident graphologist when we need him?
I was thinking that this handwriting looked to happy and neat to be anything other than an overacheiver taking notes for a class. The reason the notes are not attatched to her perfect notebook is that she made a copy to give to a boy in class who was absent that day. And no, I am not being over snarky... I WAS that girl.
The high school that I work at is a stone's throw from Planned Parenthood.
I guess that is better than a strip club
I think these are class notes. I just can not get over the strip club being next to the high school. As soon as they are 18 they can cross the parking lot and make 5 times what their teachers do. So sad.
This actually looks like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy work - you have to choose a situation, then asses the feelings/thoughts/behaviors/etc. associated to work and see how you can improve the negative ones - I know this because I used to participate in CBT.
So it's nice to see that it looks like this person is getting help :)
Oooh this is a strange new world. I like it. I don't like the spam protection question though - am I meant to be able to do 28 times 15 in my head?!
What does 'asses the feelings' entail I wonder??! :)
@ Mona: Absolutely! Strip Tease 101 gets you P.E. credit.
Competitive stripping team practice after school (and all night).
Let's think of some good team names. C'mon people! Show your school spirit!
There's a nationally sponsored suicide prevention training program called QPR. (Question, Persuade, Refer).
As an RA at the university I attend, and it's a training process I was required to do. This list looks just like a page of my notes from the lecture.
She'll be fine :]
How about "The Fightin' G strings"
yeah, and instead of climbing that stupid rope, we'd have pole classes.
I'm tellin' ya, these are not notes!!! I went to a therapeutic behavior boarding school when i was 14, our assignments unfolded something like this:
write 30 things your thinking about,
write 30 things your feeling,
10 + & 10 - in your life.
and we got these assignments when we got into trouble, or when people were on suicide watch. and being suicidal has nothing to do with your handwriting. In my psych classes in college i learned that many people are most obsessive about conditional attributes immediately prior suicide.
Unless you've had these exact thoughts before, please don't assume they are an assignment. I wrote MANY of these types of notes when I was in highschool, although most were in a stream of consciousness style. Honestly, some people feel like they have no one to talk to so the only way to get it out is to write it down. Not that it makes the problem better. I'm medicated now and it has made an amazing difference. I'm now preparing to become a high school teacher partly because I have such a heart for students like this whose inner torment gets ignored.
Thank you, Someone. It's so easy for adults to dismiss teenager's emotions as "teen drama queen" when sometimes in reality we can feel ourselves losing our grip. I remember telling my mother, "Mom, I think I'm losing my mind" and hearing the response, "Well, if you talk like that you will." Thanks, mom. I very nearly did. I did recover, no thanks to you. No wonder we lost touch in the last 20 years of your life. You didn't notice, but we'd lost touch years before.
Many hurting young people do write out their emotions because they have no one to take them seriously. And sometimes it is most serious. They feel a need to "tell" someone, even a sheet of paper, without being talked down, laughed at or interrupted. As Peter Elbow said, poison on paper can be safely tossed in the trash; poison in your mind can screw you up.
If there is one sentence I hate, it's "Don't feel that way."
I'd have extremes of mood if I had mange too...
To all of you who say that this looks like a list of what to look out for, it kinda does. But what I noticed is that it's all written in the first person, like she is the one who feels that way. And also, under thoughts, it says "I won't be needing these things anymore." What could someone who was making a list of what to look out for mean by that? It sounds like a girl wrote this about how she feels.
yuck. I hope this one got counsel
@Night in Gale Maybe we should invite the person who wrote this note to join our crappy band, then maybe they wouldn't feel so crappy-
team names:
The G Spots
or
The Happy Hookers
or
The Dollar Bills
I wonder how many times the strippers dance to "Hot for Teacher"
@Flargy--one of my all time favorites from Maddox (Ebaums world) is the "Why I'm better than your kid" or something like that. The one with all of the kids' drawings. Greatness!
@ mlm
agreed. with the hairy fire truck. its total greatness.
The school I'm training in at the moment recently had to dismiss a supply teacher because it turned out that he was a stripper in his spare time.
@Effie What's a supply teacher?
the first thing that came to mind when i saw this is that it looks exactly like all the notes we took last year in my sociology course. if someone was really writing their own feelings, i doubt they'd separate them with headings like "thoughts" and "feelings".
this really looks like what an actor might write when trying to figure out the emotions in a monologue.
@Smallbear: "Supply teacher" means "substitute teacher." Short-term replacement. Who obviously in this case wasn't making ends meet (pardon my French) with just teaching.
Helplessly hoping....
I've made lists like this before, and "hidden" them in public places rather than discuss them with the people I actually know.
I second Caitlin, this is exactly what you are taught to look for in someone who might be feeling suicidal.
This looks to me like the first two sections of a Cognitive Behaviour exercise to COUNTER depression. It's usually called a Thought Record.
The rest must be missing. It should be followed by challenging the negative beliefs and thinking of alternatives.
terrifying.
i've written many, many lists just like this before, except without the separate headings.